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Vets Back From War Face Shocking Reality

“If it weren’t for my daughter … I’d be one of those guys on the corner with a sign”—Maryland veteran.

When Andrew Smith III talked with his U.S. Marine Corps platoon mates in Iraq before he returned to Maryland in 2009, he recalled they agreed finding a job in a recession would be tough.

But he said he never imagined it would be like this.

Smith said he sleeps four hours a night to make time for his part-time job loading baggage for Delta Airlines, training classes in the afternoons and searching for a full-time job with benefits to support his wife and two kids without relying on food stamps and other assistance.

But last week, during a job fair organized by the Maryland Department of Transportation for veterans in Baltimore, he was almost optimistic.

“For a while, we as veterans feel like we were forgotten about,” said Smith, 29, of Baltimore, who served two tours in Iraq as a field radio operator. “We felt as though we were walking around like zombies. Then the movement came along and we felt recognized and it feels good.”

The “movement” Smith is referring to is the growing awareness in Maryland and nationally of the once they leave the war zone.

Veterans at a job fair April 30 told stories of the perfect storm they faced upon returning home.

"We were already in the midst of the recession as we were getting out, so we were figuring work might be a little hard to find," said Smith, "but it’ll be there, we won’t be unemployed for too long. But that wasn’t the case."

Veterans said there were fewer jobs than when they left, higher health care and fuel costs and the American public got a skewed view of the potential psychological effects on those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan—wars at the center of fierce political debate at home.

At one point, a man at the job fair seemed to embody the frustration of vets everywhere when he retreated from the hubbub of the employment booths and employment pitches. He sat quietly in a chair in a cluster of empty ones declining to give his name but responding to a reporter's question by saying he was overwhelmed by the stress of looking for work.

In Maryland, the 8.9 percent average unemployment rate among the 28,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans is higher than the state’s overall average.

Joblessness for post-9/11 veterans nationally was 12.1 percent in 2011, with young male veterans between the ages of 18 to 24 who served after 9/11 at 29.1 percent unemployment, according to March 20 Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Job fairs are being held across Maryland in efforts to link veterans to jobs. Nationally, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has held about 140 job fairs for veterans and about 7,000 have found jobs through the “Hiring Our Heroes” initiative, reports the Los Angeles Times.

“It’s almost like they want to repay you for what you did."

A are also offering preference in hiring to veterans, a practice already in place at the state level. The Maryland Department of Transportation started offering veterans preference May 1. That came a day after this week's job fair, which it organized and was the first of its kind with 52 vendors at the 5th Regiment Armory in Baltimore.

Getting a job? ‘Like the Lottery’

Joshua Stavrakoglou, 27, from Baltimore, was honorably discharged in February from the U.S. Army after completing a 15-month tour in Iraq. He said he has applied for 250 jobs since getting out and is still looking.

He arrived 15 minutes early to the job fair that attracted between 500 and 600 participants in hopes of snagging a lead.

He said it’s been difficult to find someone interested in the skills he gained doing intelligence work in the Army, which he joined after earning a history degree from Stony Brook University in New York.

“This job fair was better than the last one I went to,” he said. “There’s this sense of desire to help you, because you did something that not a lot of people wanted to do in the first place,” he said. “It’s almost like they want to repay you for what you did."

John Richard, 55, a veteran from Dundalk, said the generation of young veterans flooding the workforce face employers who never served and don’t understand the “hardships veterans face.”

Several veterans interviewed at the fair said they are competing for jobs after being out of the workforce during multiple tours in Iraq or Afghanistan, time their competitors have spent getting college degrees and direct job experience.

"I guess the hump we’re trying to overcome—we’re competing with college grads," Smith said. "I’m competing with guys with business degrees, engineering degrees. ... . So I’m getting beat out by them. Honestly I don’t understand why."

Experts also said, in some cases, returning veterans can face emotional challenges amid the tremendous practical hurdles of rejoining civilian life.

About 20 percent of veterans home from Afghanistan or Iraq reported symptoms of major depression or post traumatic stress disorder, according to a 2008 RAND Corp. study.

“A lot of our soldiers are coming back from war and [have] seen terrible things, and may not have processed that,” said Fritzie Charné-Merriwether, special assistant to the UMBC vice president for student affairs who works on veterans’ issues.

“I think of a student when we first started school, he would have to always sit in a certain place in the classroom. He needed to see who was coming out," she said.

The recession is hitting home for older veterans, too.

Ronald Hoskinson, 61, who lives in Baltimore just outside of Pikesville, said he was weathering the poor job market through the generosity of family.

He and his wife live in the basement of his daughter’s house, where she resides with her boyfriend and two children.

“If it weren’t for my daughter … I’d be one of those guys on the corner with a sign,” said Hoskinson, who served in the Air Force from 1971 to 1975 in Massachusetts and England. He lost his job in 2010 working for a storage company in Randallstown a year after a company buyout.

“I’ve been looking for a job ever since,” he said.

His wife is recovering from cancer and gets a Social Security disability check but her monthly medication bill is $700, he said, and she has to have another operation.

In his job search, Hoskinson has found that it’s tough to get face time with employers and he said he doesn't feel he's getting preferential treatment for being a veteran.

“It’s like a lottery,” he said.

They need a future’

But Gordon Davis, with the Center for Professional Studies at Towson University, said there was a growing awareness among employers regarding the benefits of hiring veterans.

The center helps people get certifications for specific career fields, such as project management, human resources and medical coding and billing, he said.

“These are bright people,” he said. “They need a future. … They know what a sense of responsibility is—how to attack a problem and solve it. I think the hiring community is realizing there’s not a stigma and there shouldn’t be.”

Smith, the veteran supporting a family on food stamps and a part-time job, said he’s hoping employers will act on the good will he’s been increasingly hearing about.

Armed with a high school-degree and hands-on experience in radio communications in Iraq, he said he knows he’s competing for jobs with people with business and engineering degrees.

“We’re trainable," he said. "You give us minimal direction, and we can go in and do it. We take responsibility in everything we do. As veterans, we’re just looking to show that talent.”

Editor’s Note: This is the second in a series of Patch articles examining the employment issues Maryland veterans face in a fragile economy. In the coming weeks, Patch will ask veterans to publish their profiles on our sites as part of an effort to promote the skills of those soldiers who hail from or have settled in the Free State.

Are you a veteran looking for a job and want to tell your story? Email lisa.rossi@patch.com.

Want a list of resources and potential employers who want to hire vets?

Other stories in this series: of how he found work, and regionally to help other veterans.

You can find more articles from this ongoing series, “Dispatches: The Changing American Dream” from across the country at The Huffington Post.


B Allen May 16, 2012 at 07:33 pm
BrianC ...it is going to be tough but there are jobs out there, you need to go where they are and they are NOT in Maryland. I have posted the dismal lists that maryland falls way short on, with the high corporate taxes, high and getting higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, higher fees, deductions taken away, bigger government and less services. If you are not working, i would look elsewhere other than Maryland.
AZ May 26, 2012 at 01:00 am
It isn't hard for a veteran with competitive skills to get a job in Maryland.  Especially in Maryland.  If they don't have competitive skills, there is a great GI Bill that can help them become competitive.  A vet with a degree will get preference over a  non-vet with the same degree.  This victimization act is nonsense - nobody owes you anything.  You weren't drafted - you vollunteered.  It's the first thing Drill Sergeants scream in your face in basic training.  Do former officers have as hard a time as former enlisted finding jobs in Mayland?  Almost certainly not - because they have competitive academic credentials To complement their real-world experience.
jnrentz1 June 3, 2012 at 08:01 pm
Escariot:
Very well said..
McGibblets June 3, 2012 at 08:49 pm
Great way of dodging his whole post there paul... everything you said about Escariot pretty much applies to your post :)
Charlie June 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm
AZ as a vet you are a A@#! I got injured and was forced to retire, I left behind my income. It took almost 2 years to get my VA compensation so I collected unemployment and worked others jobs that I could handle. But, that was not enough instead of living in the barracks and having my meals provided I now had to pay rent, pay my car payment and everything else. So not only did I sacrifice myself I also sacrificed my credit. So yes a Vet does deserve job preference with or without a degree. He/She deserves to get a job when they leave the military, the skills that you learn are more than college will ever teach you. I can back that up as I have used my GI Bill and gained a degree, my college education taught me nothing that I did not learn in the Army.
curt Jam June 4, 2012 at 12:51 am
B Allen, your incessant range and lack of intelligence is astounding! If only you pulled your head out of you A@# long enough to see how ignorant you sound you would know that the mess we are in financially is a direct result of the past cabinet that threw our country onto a spiral! You can't give a tax cut to all and I might add that 99% of those that recieved that tax cut it equated to a meager 100 dollar a year more in the pocket. That tells you that the 1% or the millionaires got a windfall of pocket change. So, where do you think those millionaires and billionaires hide their money? Overseas in offshore accounts tax sheltering their profits as always. These same people already were using every loophole they can to avoid paying taxes such as Romney has! None of your wealthy should get big tax breaks! They make their fortunes off the sweat of the less fortunate! But you Repubes don't get it. What's even more astounding is how nieve these redneck poor states are in thinking that someone like Romney really gives a crap about them. The Repubes have always sided with big oil and basically big business. Slashing any and all regulation allowing for bigger tax breaks, toxic waste spills hurting the very land that produces the life food we thrive on. Bush pretty much caused the catastrophe in the gulf or at least aided in it happening. Bush is the very reason were in the economic mess were in. He bailed out the very banks that got him elected! Bigoted Repubes!!
curt Jam June 4, 2012 at 01:08 am
Let's face it, any president that had to take over the mess left behind by that idiot Bush would have his hands full!!! The debt would grow no matter what since we are stuck in a war that required borrowed money from China in order to sustain itself. The Renovate had their hands tied and were forced to give bush a green light because had they not it was made known that they would do it with their stamp of approval or without! Most of our debt came from Bush bailing out the banks and the war. It continues to grow because let's face it, you can't just pull out of a country once your in it thick. The real hatred Repubes have is the fact we have elected a black president and their bigoted upbringing has them incessantly pissed over it! They can't face the reality that a black man was unanimously elected to clean up the mess that their moron created!!
McGibblets June 4, 2012 at 01:49 am
Speaking of naive...
McGibblets June 4, 2012 at 04:10 am
Neither Giblets nor chicken hawks apply here, move along boy.
Buck Harmon June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am
Obama is half black...half white...who really gives a crap...
Friedhard June 4, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You aren't married to JoAnn Nichols, by any chance, are you?
curt Jam June 4, 2012 at 02:32 pm
Problem is Buck the fact most bigoted republicans can't stand any ethnic president other than white. The mere fact you have to point out hes both black and white mixed only fuels my point. You talk to most Republicans and the Black hatred comes out in one form or another. You hear the comments about socialism but when you ask how he is socialist no one can explaand in nor match what socialist means in the dictionary. They are just mimicking what faux news and other republican paid media says as if its gospel. It's sad how the years have passed and you would think so has predjudice but its apparent there is one group of people that can't nor ever will get it. Now, in case you're wondering, I am not black. The only prejudice I carry is for close minded bigoted people who think the world should revolve around their ideals based off some misguided notion of ideals that a book says is right. As for vets getting jobs, they chose to join the military. No one forced them and there are many that wouldn't go fight a war that was both senseless and less than purposeful. We still have turmoil in the middle east in fact its worse than it was before hussein was captured. Bush was told this before he entered Iraq but he chose to ignore. Now not only to we have an insane amount of debt as a result but also a mess as a result. If vets want jobs then apply and stop asking for handouts. You had a choice when you joined.
Jack White June 4, 2012 at 02:39 pm
B. Allen, whoever you are, you are an embarrassment to military veterans, Americans, and decent intelligent people in general. I'm a veteran of the army. I've been working since I was 14. I have a Bachelor's degree in English and a Master's in Computer Information systems. I make a good living. I own my home, take care of my children, pay my taxes, and don't whine about it. Most of my friends are liberals, some are veterans. They've all been working all their lives. Most are self-made, and like me, the sons and daughters of working class parents. Nothing was given to us and we don't ask anyone to give anything to us. I study history and politics. I believe in this country. I believe in hard work and decency. I believe in helping those who need help. And I know what's going on and what has gone on. You know nothing about liberals, about history, or about reality. You live in a cloud of hatred fueled by resentment and poor information. You have never grown up and for information you turn to whatever sources you can find that will fuel your hatred. But know this, liberals work. They think. They pay taxes. And we're a little tired of the incessant whining of people like you.
DS June 4, 2012 at 02:48 pm
First I am grateful for the service that our Veterans provided. I also believe everyone has the right to find work and affordable housing and raise a family if they wish. HOWEVER - and hear me out before the commentary begins...I know more than a few Vets who served in the Gulf War and recent tours to the Middle East and they bragged about how litlle they actually did. They bragged about making good money (one fella in fact came back and bought a Jeep Gran Cherokee in cash) so while I know not everyone was that fortunate - people have to understand not all Vets have it rough. Vets or not good jobs are hard to find these days. I agree the MD Democrats are making it tough when they are not tax friendly to Corporations. I just think there also have to be some considerations for non Vets who need jobs too.
123BOOM June 4, 2012 at 02:59 pm
Veterans should use their military school allowances and receive training if they cannot find a job. Military service is voluntary, correct?? Nobody owes you a thing; you made your career choice now live and adjust with it. Jobs are scarce and only the most qualified will receive employment.
The rest of the comments dealing with illegals, Republicans and Democrats is immaterial. By Federal law, illegals should be deported and employers of them are also in violation of law. Remember, Maryland is a blue state and is primarily ruled by the Democrats. So, if you have a problem here in Maryland, it is the Democrats that have built the ship in which you sail.
McGibblets June 4, 2012 at 05:49 pm
Prove that I'm not already in the military!
AZ June 5, 2012 at 04:27 am
@FIFA and Justin: Good rule of thumb - the harder someone beats their chest about their service, the more indignant they are about not being rewarded for it, the less legit they probably are. Unfortunately, the fakes and washouts are the first and loudest to declare how much everyone owes them. Keep that in mind if you are indeed legit. Based on your bravado, have my doubts.
FIFA June 5, 2012 at 11:17 am
AZ, I have an accurate rule of thumb, unlike yours. Those who haven't served but think those that have had a gravy job on the gravy train. I generally find they are chicken hawks. Ticks looking for a free ride. Based on your comments, you appear to be latched on for the ride.
1ke June 5, 2012 at 11:46 am
A lot of the opinions here are based on the shaky assumption that the President of the United States is godlike in his powers. It is a comfortable assumption in many regards.
First, the President-as-God assumption enables a laser focus on what is wrong in America to the exclusion of details that take a lot of sophisticated analysis. Who has time to examine world politics, macroeconomic theory, banking practices and the flow of international capital? It is easier to think that the President is the problem. Second, the Almighty President perspective enables a large chunk of the televised media to sell soap and cars. As long as everybody is all hopped up on how the President sucks or how he is great, they will sit through to the next commercial. Start looking into the chance of Clean Coal ever making it, for example, and the channels change. And folks do vote for who makes the best commercials . Third, the President-That-Sucks-Bigtime myth provided the reasoning for the political Outs to worm their way In so that they can flip a profit. There is Big Money tied up in the political process and having a rational voting public is not in the Big Money's interest.
McGibblets June 5, 2012 at 01:04 pm
Which question is that? I certainly didnt ask any nor did you ask any of me.
The rest of your post is blind assumptions, but if you're in the military I expect no less. Provide proof of the accusations you make towards me and when you're done failing at that try telling me the last time anyone died for ME. That should wrap this exchange up!
1ke June 5, 2012 at 01:13 pm
Hats off to you, sir.
Arbutus Town Crier June 5, 2012 at 01:28 pm
The country has been in a spiral since 1865 when they started with amending the Constitution, Bill of rights. Then the Ponzi scheme Federal Reserve Bank by progressive Prez Wilson knew Congress would not pass same process currently the current Prez did with Health Care. Our Schools refuse to teach true history wiping out why we Are Americans Thomas Jefferson gave us the warning of paper money. John Adams reads, "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion in treaty with a Muslim country.Distortion of history since Wilson went into high gear 50 yrs ago even covering up true history Just look at this forgotten American hero War Between the States (1861-65), Private Owens of the 1st Maryland Artillery, Confederate States of America SURPRISE!, Its shows how truth is distorted for to blind people in to believe Falsehoods that we are thought in history class and puts pins us against each other .it even goes deeper than that! These men our founding fathers warned us on all of issues we face today. Like a child we didn’t listen, My Family History goes back to the surrender of Yorktown ,and still proudly serves today. All above is Facts if you choose to seek the truth its out their.
Buzz Beeler June 5, 2012 at 02:07 pm
Everyone should watch this interview with Medal Of Honor recipient Sgt. Dakota Meyers and listen to what he says at the end when asked did the battle change anything and he answered - NO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRyZ298pGf8
Temperance Blalock June 5, 2012 at 02:14 pm
Many men who fought in the Revolutionary War received pensions afterward, or land grants, for their service to the new country. Civil War Union veterans received pensions; in fact, the Civil War pension system became so large that it eventually dwarfed any disbursement system since - by the 1890s, more than 50% of the adult male population over age 50 were receiving a Civil War-related pension (as well as many women who were widows and minor children who were also receiving pension benefits). More than half of the entire federal budget in the 1890s was going to Civil War pension benefit payments. One of the reasons that the concept of the Social Security system was accepted by the general public in the 1930s was because they recalled how important the Civil War pension system had become in the economy, as essentially a form of old-age pension.
Jeff Hawkins June 5, 2012 at 02:39 pm
Good and factual information. My distant Grandpappy received a "land grant" (50 acres I believe?) for service in the Revolution. In addition, after the Civil War..... on a "state" level Confederate veterans and their widows were also allowed to apply for a pension. Many of my "rebel" ancestors took advantage of this....... it was as you state a precursor to Social Security.
jnrentz1 June 5, 2012 at 02:47 pm
Ms. Blalock,
Thank you for the important history. My great-grandfather was among those who received a Civil War Pension. For those of you who are interested, a specific building, The Pension Building was erected to handle the large number of claims made by Civil War veterans. The Pension Building is located on F Street between 4th and 5th Streets, Northwest, and is open for visitation as the National Building Museum. For those who wish to know more about its history, please visit: http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc40.htm
Parkvillehoney June 5, 2012 at 04:03 pm
1ke, I don't blame President Obama as much as I blame this "do nothing" Congress. Congress has had the opportunity to look for alternative fuels since the mid 70's. They are so beholden to the oil companies for political contributions, this is why the USA still uses oil as its main fuel. We have 100 years stockpile of nat gas yet Congress refuses to pass laws requiring a changeover to this fuel. Listen to Boone Pickens. Congress could have required all OTR truckers to transition to nat gas. Most major trucking manufacturers are now able to produce nat gas engines. Boone Pickens is trying to build stations to supply nat gas. I think Pilot Truck Stops in California is the 1st to support nat gas stations. I think all voters should look at Congress as the problem.
Arbutus Town Crier June 5, 2012 at 04:15 pm
Apparently you have been through the system that has blinded you Benjamin Welch Owens, who left his nearby West River farm to join Confederate forces during the Civil War. Owens was among the tens of thousands of men from Maryland who made their way south. Not Slavery at all He is one of our forgotten soldiers same as revolutionary war There were many like him of his free will, you just stated that you are one of the indoctrination of the process failure to seek the truth SURPRISE http://dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0003531.htm in your own back yard!
Arbutus Town Crier June 5, 2012 at 04:20 pm
yes it was created with good intentions but Capital hill kept putting there hands on it and used it and look now where we are at?
Escariot June 5, 2012 at 04:49 pm
Parkville honey, i respectfully disagree with that post of yours blaming congress and not the president. It was the president that pushed the obamacare bill through a congress that willfully and gleefully obliged. I work in healthcare. Right now hospitals all over the country will be dumping jobs before July, the beginning of a new fiscal year. Why? Because obamacare has taxes written into it that will tax everything from an aspirin to a surgical mask but will not increase the payments to such hospitals. This is the same president that wasted billions in crony capitalism. 80 percent of department of energy loans went to obama bundlers. Did congress not pass all his policies?

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